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TOPIC: iPhone users get BBC radio downloads
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/bedcd111af0d55df?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 11:23 pm
From: "Kevin Weaver"

"Charles" <fort514@mac.com> wrote in message
news:301120082019097514%fort514@mac.com...
> In article <vRGYk.5895$hc1.158@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport.
>> Thanks for playing.
>
> You don't care about truth. You are a troll.
>
> <PLONK>
>
> --
> Charles

I love it when you lose you just plonk that person. You made my day. : )

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:16 am
From: Adrian C

Larry wrote:
> Whatever word game you like.....

Scrabble :0)

--
Adrian C

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:28 am
From: George Kerby

On 11/30/08 8:08 PM, in article 301120081808591696%nospam@nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <Xns9B66CCC46A8D9noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>> Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone
>>> that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the
>>> iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and
>>> neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the
>>> iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to
>>> home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap
>>> of the finger.
>>
>> Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT
>> to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or
>> otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone
>> doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the
>> WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread....
>
> wrong.
>
> just as he said, there are quite a few apps available for a standard,
> off the shelf, non-jailbroken iphone that will stream thousands of
> radio stations. one of them, wunder radio, not only streams broadcast
> radio, but also streams weather radio and police scanner radio (from
> scanamerica.us).
>
> there are also video streaming apps, including a forthcoming one from
> sling that will connect with a slingbox.
Don't try to confuse Lar with facts now. He's down at the Waffle House
fantasizing about Mabel, the head waitress. He imagines his head encircled
by her freshly starched apron as she hand-feeds him buttermilk pancakes
dripping with honey. Yummy!

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:35 pm
From: Todd Allcock

At 30 Nov 2008 19:50:44 -0500 Charles wrote:

> > For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the
> >iPhone apps are not a necessity.
>
> If copy and paste is a necessity to someone they would not buy an
> iPhone.

That's not fair- all devices have trade-offs. Many people, I'd guess, put
up with the iPhone's annoying limitations in order to use what they like
about it.

The iPhone's strengths, however, don't make it's limitations any less
annoying.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 7:50 pm
From: Charles

In article <gh26ud$iq$2@aioe.org>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> That's not fair- all devices have trade-offs. Many people, I'd guess, put
> up with the iPhone's annoying limitations in order to use what they like
> about it.
>
> The iPhone's strengths, however, don't make it's limitations any less
> annoying.

It is fair. If a feature is a necessity you should not buy it. I waited
until the iPhone had 3g because that was a necessity to me. And I am
glad I waited. If you buy it anyway don't complain it is missing
something that one considers a necessity. There is a difference between
necessities and limitations. Limitations......yes we would like to see
them changed but we can live with them. A necessity is something you
have to have.

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Charles

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TOPIC: 11/29/08 Joost beats Hulla to iPhone
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/300887a6a68c5b0b?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 12:14 am
From: nospam

In article <tbMYk.7854$D32.5527@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> A major amount of iPhone users have asked the question why is it missing.

how did you determine that it is a 'major amount' and how major is it?

> They also asked when it will be added. Being it's been a year and a half
> from when the 1st iPhone was shipped I would say it won't be added.

or it's not high on the list. there are far more important things to
add, such as the notification framework that was promised for last
september.

> There is
> no money in it for apple. I find it strange that someone has not tried to
> sell one on the app store. I've been told that apple has said no. (AT&T
> store mgr) But who knows. There is a reason it's not offered.

or maybe the reason is that not too many people care. in any event,
there's swirly mms via jailbreak and it looks like there is an app on
the apps store but it's not available in the usa so i can't tell what
it actually does.

> Even some of the most basic free phones offered have MMS.

so? it offers email which is far more capable than mms. also, the
iphone does not have to match feature for feature for every phone. it
does some things other phones don't and it doesn't do some things other
phones do. pick whatever device offers the features you want.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 1:47 am
From: iPhone 3Gold

On Nov 29, 6:24 am, Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <5a4bd462-c165-4af2-b502-e783238b8...@x14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Joost launched their iPhone application on the App Store this evening,
> > giving users access to 46,000 Joost videos, including major television
> > shows and films.
>
> >http://digg.com/apple/Joost_launches_iPhone_app
>
> You did not mention that according to the article the application does
> not work!
>
> I have downloaded the app and will try it myself this weekend.
>
> --
> Charles

Joost worked for me.
AmI lucky or what?

Maybe I know how to install flaky apps?

One great iPhone game is FieldRunners ($5). That would be neat on a
large screen PC too. It is well designed to take advantage of the
unique features of the iPhone multi touch screen.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 4:02 am
From: Charles

In article <slrngj6ijd.m1q.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens
<jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

> I don't know anyone who uses it. That doesn't prove that nobody does,
> any more than your anecdote shows that lots of people do.

I see you are in the UK. Maybe it is a US thing? A couple of them I
know who used it have gotten iPhones and commented to me about no MMS.
It is the only feature that anyone I know with an iPhone has commented
to me about. None has mentioned copy and paste.

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Charles

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:30 am
From: "C. Sowash"

On 1-Dec-2008, Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:

> > I don't know anyone who uses it. That doesn't prove that nobody does,
> > any more than your anecdote shows that lots of people do.
>
> I see you are in the UK. Maybe it is a US thing? A couple of them I
> know who used it have gotten iPhones and commented to me about no MMS.
> It is the only feature that anyone I know with an iPhone has commented
> to me about. None has mentioned copy and paste.

I would like to have MMS. I would also like to have a Sling player for the
iPhone and the ability to use the iPhone as a wireless modem.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 7:14 am
From: Charles

In article <quudnR7JAPi8aK7UnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, C. Sowash
<csowash@nospamComcast.net> wrote:

> I would like to have MMS. I would also like to have a Sling player for the
> iPhone and the ability to use the iPhone as a wireless modem.

Sling player is rumored to be coming. Wireless modem ability is also
rumored to be coming. MMS is rumored to be coming if you live in
Sweden. I don't need any of those but I would like text selection and
to be able to delete the selected text.

--
Charles

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:35 am
From: Jon Ribbens

On 2008-12-01, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> If your going to quote, then do it in the correct way. The above next to my
> email is not a quote from me. The one below is. It's hard to tell from this
> end who your quoting.

Sorry, it's not my job to teach you how to read standard Usenet
quoting. I'm sure your amazing powers of Googling can find you
a beginner's guide though if you're having problems.

> A major amount of iPhone users have asked the question why is it missing.

And this translates to a percentage of iPhone users how, precisely?

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:40 am
From: Jon Ribbens

On 2008-12-01, Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:
>> I don't know anyone who uses it. That doesn't prove that nobody does,
>> any more than your anecdote shows that lots of people do.
>
> I see you are in the UK. Maybe it is a US thing?

That's quite possible, yes. There are definitely cultural differences
in these things - for example, the Japanese use the "emoji" emoticons
that were added in 2.2, but as I understand it, nobody else does.
Americans use SMS messages much more rarely than Europeans, I am told.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 10:00 am
From: Larry

"C. Sowash" <csowash@nospamComcast.net> wrote in
news:quudnR7JAPi8aK7UnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> I would also like to have a Sling player for the
> iPhone and the ability to use the iPhone as a wireless modem.
>

Wow! DANGER! DANGER! HE WANTS TO USE BANDWIDTH!

Pfat chance.......

Maybe the next iPhone will be the WiMax model...

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 10:26 am
From: Todd Allcock

At 30 Nov 2008 12:11:32 -0800 4phun wrote:

> > I think there is a ten megabyte size limit for an app over 3G but I
> > have yet to find one that large that I downloaded directly to the
> > iPhone. I have about 60 apps on my iPhone now. About 25% were
> > downloaded over 3G.
>
>
> I was going to get around to this. You are right about the AT&T
> Network. They appear to impose a 10MB cap per file transfered.

Apple is the actual gatekeeper here. The 10MB limit might be a
capitulation to AT&T (and other "partner" carriers,) but the limitation is
Apple's, not AT&T's. My wife has an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile USA, and
the PHONE refuses to download files larger than 10 MB- despite T-Mo's
network having no such limitation (other than the user might grow old and
die first waiting for more than 10MB to download at 2G!) ;-)

> If you
> want to stream more data then that break it up into chunks just like
> any other file transfer program does.

How does she do that with the app store, Vic?

> Google now allows you to have 20MB emails. Did you notice that you
> have to download many attachments one at a time instead of the whole
> ball of wax at once with the big emails?
>
> Many aps from the apt store tend to be less than 10MB, although I have
> some really big ones that AT&T would prevent transfer over the 3G side
> of heir networks. You could still grab a big app over their wifi
> network if you were near an AT&T hot spot.

Again, the limitation seems to be hard-coded INTO THE PHONE by Apple, not a
network message generated by AT&T, else non-AT&T users like my wife
wouldn't see it, and other AT&T phone users would also be hampered by the
limit, but apparently aren't.

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TOPIC: Get Ringtones @ http://www.themegafun.com
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/f1928add296f6ae0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:49 am
From: A

Get Ringtones @ http://www.themegafun.com

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TOPIC: Females love to show off in front of their webcams
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/c4d5b2d5b47e1047?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:56 am
From: linabobbydania@gmail.com

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TOPIC: FAQ for AT&T Mobility (Cingular Wireless)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/a411442bb8bad105?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 8:23 am
From: John Navas

<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>
A comprehensive resource for AT&T Mobility (Cingular Wireless) subscribers.
This is a Wikibook to which _anyone_ can contribute.
Comments, corrections, and contributions welcome!

<<>>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:50 am
From: George Kerby

On 12/1/08 10:23 AM, in article
l62dnVqWnrzskqnUnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com, "John Navas"
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> babble

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TOPIC: CHARTER of alt.cellular.cingular
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/212885cbb570ca10?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 8:23 am
From: John Navas

CHARTER:

This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
in the English language, and human-readable.

Inappropriate (banned) articles:
* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
* Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
* Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
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* Work-at-home or other scams
* Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
* Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
* Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
* Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:50 am
From: George Kerby

On 12/1/08 10:23 AM, in article
l62dnVWWnrzvkqnUnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com, "John Navas"
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> nothing worth noticing

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 3:48 pm
From: The Bob

John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:l62dnVWWnrzvkqnUnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com:

> CHARTER:
>

Doesn't belong here, retard. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

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TOPIC: Motorola cell phones FAQ
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/eba654db11029525?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 8:23 am
From: John Navas

Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?

A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
continuous use while charging.
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For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.

Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
* SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
* NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
$15 (plus shipping).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motorola mini USB (EMU) chargers for RAZR, KRZR (with power output if known):
* Wall "travel" (AC) charger (comes with the phone)
+ Motorola SPN5185/SPN5185A/SPN5185B/98604H: 550 mA (mid)
+ Motorola SPN5202/98605: 850 mA (fast)
* Car (12V) charger
+ Motorola SYN1630/SYN0847/98603H/VC700
* External rechargeable battery/charger
+ Motorola SPN5353/P790/98782H
* (5 pin) mini USB cable to computer: 500 mA
+ Motorola SKN6371C
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
(For what it's worth, Motorola probably saves less than $1 in cost by
packaging slower chargers instead of fast chargers with its phones.)

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Q: Where can I get USB modem drivers for Motorola cell phones?

A: <http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/Handset_USB_Driver/>
[registration required, but free]

1. UNinstall any existing driver in Device Manager before installing this
driver.

2. Install this driver _before_ connecting cell phone.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:52 am
From: George Kerby

On 12/1/08 10:23 AM, in article
l62dnVSWnrzvkqnUnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com, "John Navas"
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> Q: Why is John Navas a retard?
His mama stood up when giving birth?

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