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* AT&T Dumps Dish, to sell package with DirecTv - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/5b2e147d34535595?hl=en
* Microsoft: If you can not beat them, join them! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/9bf9609a764ebfec?hl=en
* My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It Dividend
'. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/b0b1dcaca05bd81e?hl=en
* The "new" wore off it? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/bf38399a6a861642?hl=en
* Pocket printer?.....scanner? - 6 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/a77de75f121808fc?hl=en
* Apple Readies "I'm an iPhone" Ads Against Android - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/943b351154818076?hl=en
* Apple iPhone Tips And Tricks - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/0fb17f5c35f82da8?hl=en

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TOPIC: AT&T Dumps Dish, to sell package with DirecTv
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/5b2e147d34535595?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 9:51 pm
From: Jer

SMS wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>> and compete with their own U-Verse?
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080926/tc_nm/us_directvtech
>
> U-Verse deployment has been very slow. They need an interim solution.

As I understand it, Dish, and now Direct, *is* their interim solution.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 5:24 am
From: VenuvaIococa

Also only one HD stream at a time

>> U-Verse deployment has been very slow.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 5:24 am
From: Ron

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:51:53 -0500, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote:

>SMS wrote:
>> Ron wrote:
>>> and compete with their own U-Verse?
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080926/tc_nm/us_directvtech
>>
>> U-Verse deployment has been very slow. They need an interim solution.
>
>
>As I understand it, Dish, and now Direct, *is* their interim solution.

Dish is the SBC/ATT solution ubtil Jan 31, 2009. DirecTv was used by
Bell-South/ATT until that contract expired earlier this year.

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TOPIC: Microsoft: If you can not beat them, join them!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/9bf9609a764ebfec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 8:34 am
From: "drewdawg"

"iPhone 3Gold" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:42761d09-f71e-4cb5-9e4b-27411319dc27@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Microsoft to Deliver an iPhone App
> By Brian X. Chen September 26, 2008
>
> Apparently Microsoft wants to make some dough off its rival's success:
> The company is developing an iPhone application.
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/cnet/20080926/tc_cnet/83011386031005189656

Microsoft has been selling applications for Mac for years, this is nothing
new.

Office for Mac
IE & OE for Mac
etc etc

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TOPIC: My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It
Dividend'.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/b0b1dcaca05bd81e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 9:30 am
From: Jon Ribbens

On 2008-09-26, Mark Crispin <mrc@panda.com> wrote:
> The British definition of a billion is what Americans call a trillion;
> that is, a million million.

While you are in theory correct, these days if you hear a British
person say "billion" they probably mean the American version.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 11:51 pm
From: iPhone 3Gold

On Sep 26, 12:59 am, iPhone 3Gold <iphone4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just received this thought provoking email from my CPA.
>
> Subject: Fw: why not do it this way?????
>
> I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. <---------85 Trillion missing a set of 3 zeros

>
> Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a 'We <------85 Trillion missing a set of 3 zeros> Deserve It Dividend'.

No one noticed this but me, and the point still stands "give $425,000
to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It Dividend'.".

For those who are Google challenged ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMP_enUS291&q=trillion+dollar+bailout&btnG=Search

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TOPIC: The "new" wore off it?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/bf38399a6a861642?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 9:32 am
From: Jon Ribbens

On 2008-09-26, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> http://mail.ebay.com/op/c/f13f3c5c36II4fa808dd0II45106f6IIf7c9e3b396
>
> No bids at all?

That would be because you specified "only show auctions with no bids"
in your search criteria.

Very poor troll, 3/10. Must try harder.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:24 am
From: "Victor"

"Larry" <noone@home.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns9B25BCC705FEAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> http://mail.ebay.com/op/c/f13f3c5c36II4fa808dd0II45106f6IIf7c9e3b396
>
> No bids at all?
>
> Maybe the "new" is wearin' off......
>
In 4 days you can get the iPhone 3G with 8 GB from T-Mobile, Germany for 569
? with a prepaid card of 100 ? included. Why should anybody in Germany pay
more than 469 ? without prepaid card?????

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:30 am
From: "Victor"

"Victor" <no.spam@invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:gblq8d$6bo$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:Xns9B25BCC705FEAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>> http://mail.ebay.com/op/c/f13f3c5c36II4fa808dd0II45106f6IIf7c9e3b396
>>
>> No bids at all?
>>
>> Maybe the "new" is wearin' off......
>>
> In 4 days you can get the iPhone 3G with 8 GB from T-Mobile, Germany for
> 569 ? with a prepaid card of 100 ? included. Why should anybody in Germany
> pay more than 469 ? without prepaid card?????

Sorry the ? means EURO

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 5:14 pm
From: Larry

"Victor" <no.spam@invalid> wrote in
news:gblqjn$i72$02$1@news.t-online.com:

>
> "Victor" <no.spam@invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:gblq8d$6bo$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>>
>> "Larry" <noone@home.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:Xns9B25BCC705FEAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>>> http://mail.ebay.com/op/c/f13f3c5c36II4fa808dd0II45106f6IIf7c9e3b396
>>>
>>> No bids at all?
>>>
>>> Maybe the "new" is wearin' off......
>>>
>> In 4 days you can get the iPhone 3G with 8 GB from T-Mobile, Germany
>> for 569 ? with a prepaid card of 100 ? included. Why should anybody
>> in Germany pay more than 469 ? without prepaid card?????
>
> Sorry the ? means EURO
>
>
>

including all the Euros on the end????...(c;

üéâäàåêçëèïîìÄÅÉæÆôöòûùÿÖÜ¢£¥PƒáíóúñѪº¿¬¬½¼¡«»

I guess we don't have a new ASCII character I can get to for Euros.

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TOPIC: Pocket printer?.....scanner?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/a77de75f121808fc?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 9:58 am
From: Larry

http://planon.com/

Didja ever need to print out that email or webpage on your pocket device
so you could read it or have a hard copy to show a bunch of people?

Printstik.....street price about $240....is a THERMAL printer with its
own internal paper cart (buy.com wants $18 for 3 rolls for it) that's
Bluetooth connected...no wires...rechargeable...no cords...NO INK OOZING
out into your briefcase as the plane takes off and the pressure
drops....

Google it and YouTube. This think is, of course, about 12" long but
it's still tiny by portable printer standards.

I've already emailed them to connect their driver coders to Maemo's
driver coders. I want one pretty bad.....

Uses? Many!......

You're out looking for 213 Maemo Drive and want a bigger map of the maze
of streets in this stupid neighborhood.....print the map

Someone needs a printout of something and doesn't have a BT printer to
connect to to give it to them. Print it yourself.

The boss emailed you a list of instructions and stuff to pickup all over
town while you are out. It's on the tablet/iphone/blackberry but it's a
PITA to keep popping it up all the time....Print it and carry the paper
into the shops.

You need a printout of the schematic they sent you to fix their PoS
that's broken. Squinting at a little piece of this huge schematic just
isn't enough on the 4" screen. PRINT IT....or the portion of it you
need, 11" wide by as long as there is thermal paper in the
cartridge....yards long.

"How much will this cost me?", the CEO you're trying to sell to asks.
Print a preliminary document for him before his very eyes....most
impressive.

I can see LOTS of uses for such a tiny thermal printer.

Planon also has a really cool BT-connected SCANNER that looks like a
pen!

Scan the document someone handed you into your Blackberry and email it
to your desktop at the office. Scan your daily expenses into jpgs and
email them to the accounting department so your check will be waiting
for you....not 3 weeks after you get back.

Cool stuff....Maybe an iPhone printer if you kidnap Jobs and demand a
driver before releasing him.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 2:33 pm
From: Todd Allcock

At 27 Sep 2008 16:58:22 +0000 Larry wrote:
> http://planon.com/
>
> Didja ever need to print out that email or webpage on your pocket device
> so you could read it or have a hard copy to show a bunch of people?
>
> Printstik.....street price about $240....is a THERMAL printer with its
> own internal paper cart (buy.com wants $18 for 3 rolls for it) that's
> Bluetooth connected...no wires...rechargeable...no cords...NO INK OOZING
> out into your briefcase as the plane takes off and the pressure
> drops....
>
> Google it and YouTube. This think is, of course, about 12" long but
> it's still tiny by portable printer standards.
>
> I've already emailed them to connect their driver coders to Maemo's
> driver coders. I want one pretty bad.....

Get the Maemo guys to dash out a quick dirty screen dump driver for this:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PPA6-BLU&cat=PRN

$16 for a IR-connected thermal printer that runs for hours on 4AA Batts and
is no larger than a paperback book.

I've got three of them I've used them for years with Windows laptops and
WinMo PDAs/phones. I'm still pissed off my current WinMo phone omitted IR
and has no way to connect to it !

I keep one in my travel bag for use with my tiny Asus EEE PC, and used to
keep one in the card to print out the occasional on-line coupon from my PDA
phone for restaurants, etc.

>
> Uses? Many!......
>
> Cool stuff....Maybe an iPhone printer if you kidnap Jobs and demand a
> driver before releasing him.

The real problem with most portable devices is that their OSes have no
native print function- it's kind of like the old DOS days where each
program had to supply it's own printer support. On WinMo, for example, the
printer manufacturer generally creates a print program that will print text
files, screen caps, and maybe a few file formats (the Sipix printer I
referenced above had a program to print plain text, Pocket Word and Excel
files, and emails. You selected the file to print from a list in the
printer's own program, not the native program- i.e. Pocket Excel didn't
"grow" a print function in it's menu- you have to run the printer program
and select the Excel file you wish to print.)

For seamless print support of any document, the device would need a system-
wide print function all programs could direct output to, that the OS would
then handoff to the printer driver (like a modern desktop OS), and, AFAIK,
no mobile phone OS (RIM, iPhone, Symbian, WinMo, Palm) provides such print
support. With my Sipixes hooked to WinMo, I usually just used the "print
screen" function, just making sure the text or image I wanted to print was
on screen first. (The Screen print program runs in t
e background and is triggered by whatever hardware button you assign to it,
so you're free to roam around in any app you want and get the necessary
info on screen, hit the assigned button, and get a "Print this screen?
Yes/Cancel" pop-up dialog.)

Seeing the poor clerk at a Barnes and Noble valiantly trying to scan the
blurry 1/4-sized thermal-printed barcode on the "20% off any item "email
coupon I printed in the car moments before just adds to the geeky fun!

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 4:32 pm
From: Anybody

One way to print from and scan to the iPhone would be to use one of
those web-based email->fax / fax->email services ... the problem these
days can often be finding somewhere with a fax machine to use.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 5:08 pm
From: Larry

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:gbm9g1$bo7$1
@aioe.org:

> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PPA6-BLU&cat=PRN

Availability: Out of Stock

Sold out. Maybe they'll find some more. I clicked the alert button.

I have a USB-to-DB9 Serial Port cable for the tablet and we have a little
linux driver to go with it. I can feed it serial data but no Irda, either.
Serial is fine...(c;

Thanks for the pointer. nice unit miles cheaper. Maybe Ebay or Craigs
list.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 6:48 pm
From: "Todd Allcock"

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B26D25EC910Cnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:gbm9g1$bo7$1
> @aioe.org:
>
>> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PPA6-BLU&cat=PRN
>
> Availability: Out of Stock
>
> Sold out. Maybe they'll find some more. I clicked the alert button.

Sorry- I googled it quickly and didn't pay attention to the stock status.
Sign up for alerts on this one too:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=I-PPA6-BLK&cat=PRN

It's the same printer but in black instead of see-thru blue.

> I have a USB-to-DB9 Serial Port cable for the tablet and we have a little
> linux driver to go with it. I can feed it serial data but no Irda,
> either.
> Serial is fine...(c;
>
> Thanks for the pointer. nice unit miles cheaper. Maybe Ebay or Craigs
> list.

Before you get too excited, you'll need a driver before it'll work on the
tablet. It's a graphics-only (bitmap) printer- it doesn't print ASCII text
directly- the driver converts text to a graphicf bitmap before the printer
can print it (the same way a fax machine "prints" text.

Still a nice cheap comanion for your laptop, however, if you can still find
one. The roll and sheet paper are hard to find and expensive, but my
cheapskate ways fixed that. I took a thermal fax paper roll and cut the
whole roll with a mitre saw and "rolled my own"! ;-) One roll of fax paper
will give me a lifetime supply the little I use it!

>

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:45 pm
From: Larry

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:gbmnqe$a2r$1@aioe.org:

> Still a nice cheap comanion for your laptop, however, if you can still
> find one. The roll and sheet paper are hard to find and expensive,
> but my cheapskate ways fixed that. I took a thermal fax paper roll
> and cut the whole roll with a mitre saw and "rolled my own"! ;-) One
> roll of fax paper will give me a lifetime supply the little I use it!
>
>
>

I have cases of paper that may already fit it. Someone I did some
electronics work for handed me a perfectly good working Alden WEFAX HF
receiver with built-in thermal printer that uses narrower paper. I got all
the supplies he had left over when I converted his WEFAX to his laptop
hooked to the audio of his marine HF-SSB radio.

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TOPIC: Apple Readies "I'm an iPhone" Ads Against Android
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/943b351154818076?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:45 pm
From: iPhone 3Gold

Apple announced a new series of ads being produced to help squash
Google's Android platform before it takes off. Apple sees Android as a
threat to the growth of the iPhone even though most iPhone users
dismissed the recently released G1 as "not an iPhone killer."

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:47 pm
From: iPhone 3Gold

Apple Readies "I'm an iPhone" Ads Against Android
Apple announced a new series of ads being produced to help squash
Google's Android platform before it takes off. Apple sees Android as a
threat to the growth of the iPhone even though most iPhone users
dismissed the recently released G1 as "not an iPhone killer."

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:50 pm
From: Larry

iPhone 3Gold <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:0db82193-3275-4748-aef3-
e6c85af59aaf@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

>
> Apple announced a new series of ads being produced to help squash
> Google's Android platform before it takes off. Apple sees Android as a
> threat to the growth of the iPhone even though most iPhone users
> dismissed the recently released G1 as "not an iPhone killer."
>

The iPhone killer part happens when the hackers take over Android and start
figuring out how to turn it into a mainframe on steroids....like they did
with my Linux tablet...which already runs Android, of course.

If the hackers take a shine to it....Apple is in trouble.

Run-Bunny-Run just won't be the same when the guy next to you is playing
Playstation III games on Androids PVM (Playstation Virtual Machine) with
his Wiimote controller...in 3D.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 11:25 pm
From: iPhone 3Gold

On Sep 28, 1:50 am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> iPhone 3Gold <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:0db82193-3275-4748-aef3-
> e6c85af59...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Apple announced a new series of ads being produced to help squash
> > Google's Android platform before it takes off. Apple sees Android as a
> > threat to the growth of the iPhone even though most iPhone users
> > dismissed the recently released G1 as "not an iPhone killer."
>
> The iPhone killer part happens when the hackers take over Android and start
> figuring out how to turn it into a mainframe on steroids....like they did
> with my Linux tablet...which already runs Android, of course.
>
> If the hackers take a shine to it....Apple is in trouble.
>
> Run-Bunny-Run just won't be the same when the guy next to you is playing
> Playstation III games on Androids PVM (Playstation Virtual Machine) with
> his Wiimote controller...in 3D.

PlayStation apps play on the iPhone now too

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TOPIC: Apple iPhone Tips And Tricks
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/browse_thread/thread/0fb17f5c35f82da8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 11:24 pm
From: iPhone 3Gold

Apple iPhone Tips And Tricks

1. Enable Call Forwarding - Press Settings>Phone>Call Forwarding

2. Adjust the speed of your Audiobooks - Press Settings>iPod>Audiobook
Speed

3. Adjust TV Out and Closed Captions Options - Select to turn Closed
Captioning On or Off and you can adjust how your video will play on an
external display like a television. Widescreen On/Off and NSTC/PAL
Settings are right there.

4. Adjust Capitalization and Caps Lock Settings - Press
Settings>General>Keyboard.

5. Force an iPhone into restore mode - Turn Off your iPhone (press the
Sleep Button+Home button until the phone shuts off), then connect your
iPhone to your PC or Mac, and open iTunes.

Once you have iTunes open hold down the Home button and iTunes will
prompt you to perform a software restore.(Note: This function is not
located in settings.)

MORE

Smile for the camera: iFace recognition for iPhone
While there are already portable devices that can be used to measure
other biometric identifiers (iris imaging, fingerprints and the like),
iFace is the first handheld product that will do facial feature
recognition.

Apple Iphone tools - HyperOffice
Transform your Apple iPhone into a business collaboration tool. Access
your data in Outlook anywhere your Apple iPhone takes you. HyperOffice
provides mobile access to Outlook to retreive your contacts,

Japanese iPhone 3G sales better than reported
Despite a widely publicized report that suggested iPhone sales in
Japan were less than half of initial expectations, independent data
shows that sales are right in line with expectations in a market that
is often difficult for Western companies to enter.

iBetaTest.com iPhone Beta Tester/Developer Community & Store
Bridging the gap between developers and testers, helping stranded
developers w/ apps denied by Apple by giving them another app store,
helping developers create better apps thanks to quality testers (rated
by developers so we know who's worth what), and giving beta testers
what they want - early access to apps and more! Follow @iBetaTest on
Twitter

One million Snapture Premium iPhone camera program licenses
SnaptureLabs, developers of the popular unauthorized third party
application Snapture that extends iPhone camera's capabilities, have
announced that they are making 1 million copies of Snapture Premium
available to iPhone owners for free (normally Snapture Premium for
iPhone costs $7.99).

Oracle previews iPhone, social CRM applications
Continuing its push toward social CRM, Oracle this week showed off its
new Web 2.0 applications built to sit alongside traditional CRM
applications and new iPhone CRM applications.

Last.fm Delivers a Much Improved iPhone Application with v2
Listen to millions of tracks over 3g, Wifi, or Edge with your own
personal radio, recommendations, event calendar, all from the best
social music site. Now even better!"Granted, before 2.0 arrived, the
Last.fm application for iPhone and iPod touch devices was very
intuitive. But it is even more so now. "

How to tether your iPhone
This tutorial shows you how to use PDAnet to tether your iPhone. Doing
this, you will me able to use your iPhone as a modem and connect it to
your laptop to use Edge or 3G to get Internet access.

http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/tether-your-iphone-with-pdanet/

The Real iPhone Killer? A Hacked iPhone Running Android!!
Google's Android Platform is hardware agnostic which means that in
theory, Android should be able to run on Apple's iPhone just like
Windows Vista strolls casually on Apple Macbook hardware.

Loopt - Great iPhone App gets even better with Loopt Mix
Loopt just released a new version with Loopt Mix that let's you see
what other users are around you using the iPhone and GPS.

MobileCast 3.0 - Download podcasts directly to your iPhone
The app is quite functional, you can download and playback both audio
& video podcasts. It even supports password protected podcasts! 3.0
also includes a search tab that allows you quickly search for podcasts
& add them without having to type in url's.http://blog.podgrove.com/
2008/09/26/mobilecast-30-beta-now-available/

Court Pulls Plug on Apple iPhone Battery Lawsuit
Apple, Inc. has been granted a summary judgment in a class-action
lawsuit brought by iPhone purchaser Jose Trujillo. Trujillo argued
that Apple and AT&T concealed a replacement charge for the iPhone's
battery. The judge ruled that Apple warned buyers in small print, but
AT&T still faces a hearing on its terms of service.

DoYouFeed.com turns RSS into an iPhone web app
...iPhone Reader Stéphane M sent news about a website he's put
together called DoYouFeed that will apparently turn any RSS feed out
there into an iPhone web app -- just punch your RSS/XML feed URL into
the site itself, and you'll get a TinyURL back that you can bookmark
in your iPhone to read the feed on demand.

Apple Cuts iPhone Production Target By 20 Percent ...Washington Post,
United States - Sep 26, 2008Apple ( NSDQ: AAPL) has cut its 2008
iPhone 3G production target by at least 20 percent to 14 million
units, according to a new report from Pacific Crest.

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