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misc.phone.mobile.iphone - 15 new messages in 7 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Telecom NZ giving $600 credit - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/309b3a731f954a6c
* gps on, cellular off -- possible - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/6ad6ff275be2eeb2
* Quicktime on the 3g - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/a18ead2a38e77c6a
* iPhone and Bluetooth - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/0cbc89d57f747135
* DirecTV To Offer iPhone App For Watching NFL Games - Barron's Blogs - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/b41c07bb45a46da0
* Goodbye AT&T and iPhone, hello wimax device... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/7e6a32671bf80220
* Goodbye ATTWS - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/738ed016ae6ca86e

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TOPIC: Telecom NZ giving $600 credit
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/309b3a731f954a6c
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 00:06
From: "Your Name"

For any iPhone users in New Zealand, there was a full page advert in
yesterday's NZ Herald saying that Telecom will give user a $600 credit if
you move or sign-up your iPhone to the new XT network and you can keep the
same phone number. You may of course have to pay the early disconnection fee
from your Vodafone contract though.

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TOPIC: gps on, cellular off -- possible
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/6ad6ff275be2eeb2
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 02:01
From: Malcolm

On 2009-07-15 00:24:00 -0400, gideon <gy949708@gmail.com> said:

> Is there a way to have the iPhone's GPS be switched on, and cellular
> communications be switched off, simultaneously?

Only by removing the SIM.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 04:03
From: John Doe

gideon <gy949708@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to have the iPhone's GPS be switched on, and
> cellular communications be switched off, simultaneously?

I think that is called Airplane Mode, if you have a second-generation
or later iPhone with built-in GPS.

--
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Google has destroyed access to the USENET archive...
...down with Google

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 11:02
From: Malcolm

On 2009-07-15 07:03:36 -0400, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> said:

> gideon <gy949708@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to have the iPhone's GPS be switched on, and
>> cellular communications be switched off, simultaneously?
>
> I think that is called Airplane Mode, if you have a second-generation
> or later iPhone with built-in GPS.

Airplane mode turns off GPS

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TOPIC: Quicktime on the 3g
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/a18ead2a38e77c6a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 02:28
From: Philo D

In article <h3j60s$b6r$1@news.eternal-september.org>, big john
<xjrwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have tried several times to download and use Quicktime on my 3g phone.
> It's says "congratulations you now have Quicktime", but nothing shows
> anywhere that I can find and Quicktime attachments that I get in my
> email will not open.
>
> Is it working for anyone else, and if so where am I going wrong??

From the App Store?
From a bootleg site?
Quicktime for MacOS? (not the same as for iPhone)
what? where?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 14:25
From: big john

big john wrote:
> I have tried several times to download and use Quicktime on my 3g phone.
> It's says "congratulations you now have Quicktime", but nothing shows
> anywhere that I can find and Quicktime attachments that I get in my
> email will not open.
>
> Is it working for anyone else, and if so where am I going wrong??
For anyone who may care -- I got into the iPhone Forum with the same
question and was told that it can't be done!! All downloads must be done
from iTunes and it' not there.

Rats!!
--
Big John

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TOPIC: iPhone and Bluetooth
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/0cbc89d57f747135
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 07:45
From: nospam

In article <Xns9C48E8FCB4D3Anoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> >> Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)
> >
> > modems. i remember those. pan supercedes dun anyway.
>
> That's odd. ATT supports DUN. If it had DUN, you guys would already be on
> 3G with your macbooks.

it's not a bluetooth limitation. it's at&t's idiocy, and will work once
the configuration is manually entered, on bluetooth or usb.

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TOPIC: DirecTV To Offer iPhone App For Watching NFL Games - Barron's Blogs
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/b41c07bb45a46da0
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 07:57
From: dold@03.usenet.us.com

In alt.cellular.cingular News <News@group.name> wrote:
> Not exactly comparable to picture quality on a 60" DLP 1080p screen...

I love the DTV ad that shows that you can watch up to six sports channels
on one multi-screen simultaneously "all in HD".

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 08:01
From: News

dold@03.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In alt.cellular.cingular News <News@group.name> wrote:
>> Not exactly comparable to picture quality on a 60" DLP 1080p screen...
>
> I love the DTV ad that shows that you can watch up to six sports channels
> on one multi-screen simultaneously "all in HD".
>

Try that on your iToy...

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 10:59
From: ZnU

In article <h3kqot$3od$3@blue.rahul.net>, dold@03.usenet.us.com wrote:

> In alt.cellular.cingular News <News@group.name> wrote:
> > Not exactly comparable to picture quality on a 60" DLP 1080p screen...
>
> I love the DTV ad that shows that you can watch up to six sports channels
> on one multi-screen simultaneously "all in HD".

If we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that means 720p, all
you need is a 3840x1440 screen. Heh.

Such things do exist. I doubt DTV has a device that can drive one.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

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TOPIC: Goodbye AT&T and iPhone, hello wimax device...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/7e6a32671bf80220
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 08:30
From: Jackzwick

Long before Sprint has WiMax all over, ATT will have 4G.

It's easier to borrow money for the build out when you are profitable.

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TOPIC: Goodbye ATTWS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/t/738ed016ae6ca86e
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 13:47
From: News

Jackzwick wrote:
> In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
>>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
>>>
>>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
>>
>> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
>
> Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
> me a fanboi? SO be it.
>
> You're still immatrure, however.

Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 15:52
From: George Kerby

On 7/15/09 3:47 PM, in article
p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Group.Name>
wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
>> In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
>>>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
>>>>
>>>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
>>>
>>> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
>>
>> Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
>> me a fanboi? SO be it.
>>
>> You're still immatrure, however.
>
>
> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO
>
And you don't know zara, right?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 17:40
From: News

George Kerby wrote:
>
>
> On 7/15/09 3:47 PM, in article
> p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Group.Name>
> wrote:
>
>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>> In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>>>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>>>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
>>>>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
>>>>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
>>>> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
>>> Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
>>> me a fanboi? SO be it.
>>>
>>> You're still immatrure, however.
>>
>> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
>> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
>> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO
>>
> And you don't know zara, right?
>

Only what I see posted here.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 19:44
From: Jackzwick

In article <p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
> > In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> >
> >> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
> >>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
> >>>
> >>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
> >>
> >> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
> >
> > Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
> > me a fanboi? SO be it.
> >
> > You're still immatrure, however.
>
>
> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

Dont need a field replaceable battery now. I got a Mophie.

Why would I want to give a Moisture sensitive sticker a chance to see
the light of day?

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alt.cellular.attws - 4 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Goodbye ATTWS - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/81cd1c5ffd5b83e1?hl=en
* What are "night and weekend" minutes? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/5d668c2b981cf0c3?hl=en
* 3G not there in Webster Texas - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/17862bd6741f03fa?hl=en

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TOPIC: Goodbye ATTWS
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/81cd1c5ffd5b83e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:51 pm
From: Steve Sobol

In article <jackzwick-86A965.21434815072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>,
jackzwick@yahoo.com says...

> > As a result, I won't use AT&T for anything. Not wireless, not anything
> > else. Their wireless service may be stellar here in the Victor Valley,
> > but I will never find out.
>
>
> Victor Valley? Didnt you claim to love Ohio so much?

Still do. I moved out here so my wife could be closer to her family.
Turned out to be a good idea job-wise too, since the economic climate in
SoCal sucks much less than the economic climate in NE Ohio.

Of course, you've still never offered even a single excuse for your lie.

I don't know about the at&t newsgroup, but you have no credibility
amongst the regulars here, and your dishonesty is a large part of the
reason why.

I don't expect you to ever admit you lied about staying away from this
newsgroup, either.

Of course, I'll also point out that after you switched from Sprint to
at&t... very soon after... you ranted about them too, and it was about
something stupid (retail store signage).

So what is your problem? When you waltz into this newsgroup and level
your smarmy little personal attacks at people, does it make you feel
better about yourself?

Do you even have the guts to admit that you have a problem?

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol@JustThe.net

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 9:05 pm
From: Steve Sobol

In article <jackzwick-5BF142.21470615072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>,
jackzwick@yahoo.com says...

> I wont miss USENET, thanks to clowns like Kirby, Allcl0ck and Sobel, the
> noise to signal ratio is way too high.

Answer the question I asked. Why do you continue to post somewhere where
you said you would no longer post, where no one wants to listen to you?

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol@JustThe.net

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TOPIC: What are "night and weekend" minutes?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/5d668c2b981cf0c3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 10:11 pm
From: John Doe

Specifically, where on earth, and hopefully somewhere on AT&T's web
site, is the time period for night and weekend minutes listed? I do a
search for "night weekend minutes" and the only related answer is
about "anytime minutes" as if anyone needs to know that. I guess
there are some morons who need to know when "anytime minutes" can be
used. The only answer I could find was something about Rate Plan --
Details but that appears to be bad information.

The AT&T/SBC web site looks like a product of outsourcing.

--
By the way... Why do they use reverse notation for paths to
information?
"From the myWireless Account home page, select the View Details link
in the Rate Plan box."
They should list that as a path "Account Home Page -- Rate Plan Box
-- View Details Link".

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TOPIC: 3G not there in Webster Texas
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/17862bd6741f03fa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 10:18 pm
From: John Doe

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:

> At 07 Jul 2009 17:58:50 -0500 Jackzwick wrote:
>> Contrary to ATT's online coverage map
>>
>> http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
>>
>> Which shows blanket full 3G coverage south of Houston,
>> I received no 3G signal in Webster Texas this morning
>> at 9:30 AM.
>>
>> I am online at 611 to see what kind of doubletalk
>> explanation they give me.
>
>
> Hmmm... The grass isn't always greener at AT&T, eh, Phillipe?
> Perhaps you'll be back at Sprint before you know it!

Do they have iPhones?

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alt.cellular.cingular - 10 new messages in 5 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* NEWS: Apple's App Store Passes 1.5 Billion Downloads - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/2fe876f0ad357529?hl=en
* Sony Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/ff3d47c28377b2e7?hl=en
* DirecTV To Offer iPhone App For Watching NFL Games - Barron's Blogs - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/b41c07bb45a46da0?hl=en
* Goodbye AT&T and iPhone, hello wimax device... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/7e6a32671bf80220?hl=en
* Goodbye ATTWS - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/738ed016ae6ca86e?hl=en

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TOPIC: NEWS: Apple's App Store Passes 1.5 Billion Downloads
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/2fe876f0ad357529?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 3:51 pm
From: George Kerby

On 7/14/09 3:02 PM, in article 8uop559l3b7nc0ok7d6ut5dmpr7msr9lof@4ax.com,
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/ebusiness/showArticle.jhtml?arti
> cleID=218500402>
>
> Apple's App Store has eclipsed its rivals in terms of volume; its
> users have downloaded more than 1.5 billion applications in about a
> year.
>
> The over-the-air program store has been a hit with consumers, and
> this has made the platform attractive to mobile developers. Apple
> said the store now has more than 65,000 apps, and more than 10,000
> content creators are in its iPhone Developer Program. The store is
> filled with programs that range from fake beer pouring apps to
> enterprise-grade programs from Oracle and Salesforce.
>
> With more than 1,000 new hooks into the hardware, the latest firmware
> potentially opens the door for a new wave of, innovative apps.
> Additionally, the 3.0 software creates new business models for
> developers because it enables in-app purchasing, and app-specific
> hardware accessories.
>
> [MORE]
[WHERE?]

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TOPIC: Sony Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/ff3d47c28377b2e7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 2:53 am
From: Anushka

The W880i is the light weighted phone and feels good to hold in on
hand. The Sony Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone has a compact but sharp
screen capable of showing 262K colours and 240x320 pixels. The screen
of this phone provides up to 262,000 colors on its high resolution
display. The Sony Ericsson W880i has a slim, eye-catching design. It
offers admirable call quality and a decent feature set including
Bluetooth, a Walkman player, and a 2-megapixel camera. This phone has
been provided with PUSH EMAIL so we can use the internet easily. Sony
Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone also has high quality music player and
video streaming. Available in two colour variations, black with dark
orange or brushed silver with black, Sony Ericsson's W880i is a
stunner. One player can find a button and fast-forward or backward can
play a tie, a random sequence of songs and create playlists. MegaBass
woomph in Sony function, the speakers play music to add a couple of
good headphones to hear the best sound quality. Most types of
connections are supported. Another Bluetooth mobile phone, computer,
stereo headsets and car hands-free Bluetooth function on your phone
can be linked. Speed USB ports are supported. Phone, Web browser, RSS
support in the Internet age is equipped with features and picture blog
feeds. Sony Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone takes great pictures in night
mode but careful slight movement when taking picture causes just huge
fuzz on the screen. Despite being just 9.4mm thin, Sony Ericsson have
managed to cram 3G, a 2 megapixel camera, great sounding Walkman music
player, and a cool 1GB of storage into the W880i. For more information
visit- http://www.naaptol.com/buy-online/WO-best-shopping-deals-W327O/mobile_phones/gsm_handsets/sony_ericsson_w880i.html

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TOPIC: DirecTV To Offer iPhone App For Watching NFL Games - Barron's Blogs
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/b41c07bb45a46da0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:57 am
From: dold@03.usenet.us.com

In alt.cellular.cingular News <News@group.name> wrote:
> Not exactly comparable to picture quality on a 60" DLP 1080p screen...

I love the DTV ad that shows that you can watch up to six sports channels
on one multi-screen simultaneously "all in HD".

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 8:01 am
From: News

Try that on your iToy...

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 10:59 am
From: ZnU

In article <h3kqot$3od$3@blue.rahul.net>, dold@03.usenet.us.com wrote:

If we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that means 720p, all
you need is a 3840x1440 screen. Heh.

Such things do exist. I doubt DTV has a device that can drive one.

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TOPIC: Goodbye AT&T and iPhone, hello wimax device...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/7e6a32671bf80220?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 8:30 am
From: Jackzwick

Long before Sprint has WiMax all over, ATT will have 4G.

It's easier to borrow money for the build out when you are profitable.

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TOPIC: Goodbye ATTWS
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/738ed016ae6ca86e?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 1:47 pm
From: News

Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 3:52 pm
From: George Kerby

On 7/15/09 3:47 PM, in article
p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Group.Name>
wrote:

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 5:40 pm
From: News

Only what I see posted here.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:44 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
> > In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> >
> >> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
> >>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
> >>>
> >>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
> >>
> >> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
> >
> > Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
> > me a fanboi? SO be it.
> >
> > You're still immatrure, however.
>
>
> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

Dont need a field replaceable battery now. I got a Mophie.

Why would I want to give a Moisture sensitive sticker a chance to see
the light of day?

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Today's topics:

* AT&T and Java permissions - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/61ce55788cb14e8f?hl=en
* Sony Ericsson W880i Mobile Phone - 1 messages, 1 author
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* DirecTV To Offer iPhone App For Watching NFL Games - Barron's Blogs - 3
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TOPIC: AT&T and Java permissions
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/61ce55788cb14e8f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 10:26 pm
From: isw

Still on my quest to get my Bluetooth GPS working with GpsMid on my
AT&T-branded SE W580i. I got the phone to find the GPS (thanks, John),
but when I try to get it connected to GpsMid (the mapping app), I get a
message about "connecting to BT not allowed". Further, I am not able to
set up any pointers to directories on my memory stick for storing
tracks, etc. because I get a "permissions not set" error.

I think I now understand (*despite* "help" from AT&T), that the problem
is that AT&T does not allow me to set Java privileges to my liking, even
though it's *my* phone, not theirs.

This seems to have something to do with AT&T wanting to retain control
of what Java apps I am allowed to run, by requiring "certificates" which
are far too expensive for open-source developers to obtain. This, of
course, makes for a cozy relationship with commercial vendors, by
cutting out any possible competition from the FOSS community.

I also think I understand that if I "debrand" the phone (restore it to a
generic SE W580i), AT&T's Java stupidity will no longer be a problem.

Does anyone know for sure that Java permissions can be user-set on an
unbranded, generic phone, even with "unauthorized" Java apps? I'd like
to know before I go to the trouble of debranding it.

Thanks

Isaac

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 6:42 am
From: John Navas

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:26:46 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote in
<isw-BC347F.22264114072009@[216.168.3.50]>:

>Still on my quest to get my Bluetooth GPS working with GpsMid on my
>AT&T-branded SE W580i. I got the phone to find the GPS (thanks, John),
>but when I try to get it connected to GpsMid (the mapping app), I get a
>message about "connecting to BT not allowed". Further, I am not able to
>set up any pointers to directories on my memory stick for storing
>tracks, etc. because I get a "permissions not set" error.
>
>I think I now understand (*despite* "help" from AT&T), that the problem
>is that AT&T does not allow me to set Java privileges to my liking, even
>though it's *my* phone, not theirs.
>
>This seems to have something to do with AT&T wanting to retain control
>of what Java apps I am allowed to run, by requiring "certificates" which
>are far too expensive for open-source developers to obtain. This, of
>course, makes for a cozy relationship with commercial vendors, by
>cutting out any possible competition from the FOSS community.
>
>I also think I understand that if I "debrand" the phone (restore it to a
>generic SE W580i), AT&T's Java stupidity will no longer be a problem.
>
>Does anyone know for sure that Java permissions can be user-set on an
>unbranded, generic phone, even with "unauthorized" Java apps? I'd like
>to know before I go to the trouble of debranding it.

I think you will find it not an AT&T/branding problem, but a J2ME
signing and/or permissions problem.

On the AT&T-branded Motorola RAZR V3xx, a similar problem (Internet
access) can be worked around with modifying ("modding").
See Important Notes under Java Applications at
<http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola#Java_Applications>

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 9:20 am
From: isw

In article <1umr5511ji45jla4nvdbvn3nfd31kvi2en@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:26:46 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote in
> <isw-BC347F.22264114072009@[216.168.3.50]>:
>
> >Still on my quest to get my Bluetooth GPS working with GpsMid on my
> >AT&T-branded SE W580i. I got the phone to find the GPS (thanks, John),
> >but when I try to get it connected to GpsMid (the mapping app), I get a
> >message about "connecting to BT not allowed". Further, I am not able to
> >set up any pointers to directories on my memory stick for storing
> >tracks, etc. because I get a "permissions not set" error.
> >
> >I think I now understand (*despite* "help" from AT&T), that the problem
> >is that AT&T does not allow me to set Java privileges to my liking, even
> >though it's *my* phone, not theirs.
> >
> >This seems to have something to do with AT&T wanting to retain control
> >of what Java apps I am allowed to run, by requiring "certificates" which
> >are far too expensive for open-source developers to obtain. This, of
> >course, makes for a cozy relationship with commercial vendors, by
> >cutting out any possible competition from the FOSS community.
> >
> >I also think I understand that if I "debrand" the phone (restore it to a
> >generic SE W580i), AT&T's Java stupidity will no longer be a problem.
> >
> >Does anyone know for sure that Java permissions can be user-set on an
> >unbranded, generic phone, even with "unauthorized" Java apps? I'd like
> >to know before I go to the trouble of debranding it.
>
> I think you will find it not an AT&T/branding problem, but a J2ME
> signing and/or permissions problem.

It *is* an AT&T branding problem -- it's the way they have *chosen* to
handle J2ME permissions. Palm devices, for example, have no such problem
with Java apps. Users can adjust permissions to suit themselves.

And I'd still like to know about unbranded/debranded SE phones, if
anyone has any knowledge of them.

Isaac

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 2:53 am
From: Anushka

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 3:02 am
From: 12345678

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 3:03 am
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 4:28 am
From: Jackzwick

ATT dsl is no longer providing USENET service as of today,
but online I did this morning get an ATT credit card bill with my 10%
credit for ATT purchases last month.

$44

Cell Bill
POTS & dsl Bill
iPhone purchase @ ATT store
AppleCare purchase @ ATT store

After 3 1/2 weeks I still love my iPhone even more, it's just wonderful
to have GOOGLE in your pocket. Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack
Air.

The juice pack air is a rechargeable external battery concealed inside
of a protective form-fitting case for the iPhone 3G & iPhone 3G S. It
offers you the full protection of a hard-shell case while providing
virtually twice the battery life of the iPhone alone; all in an
ultra-thin, light-weight, low-profile design.

http://www.mophie.com/juice-pack-air-p/1059_jpa-ip3g-blk.htm

== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 4:39 am
From: News

Jackzwick wrote:

> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.

Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?

== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 5:48 am
From: Todd Allcock

At 15 Jul 2009 06:28:12 -0500 Jackzwick wrote:
> ATT dsl is no longer providing USENET service as of today,

You do realize there are a myriad of other usenet providers you can use,
right?

[What the hell am I saying! This is Phillipe I'm talking to!]

Um, er, sorry about that AT&T DSL thing...

It's been great- we're really going to miss you, Phil!!

== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 6:44 am
From: John Navas

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:28:12 -0500, Jackzwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com>
wrote in <jackzwick-34D67A.06281115072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>:

>After 3 1/2 weeks I still love my iPhone even more, it's just wonderful
>to have GOOGLE in your pocket.

Nothing special about that -- a great many phones can do it with the
phone browser and/or Opera Mini.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:23 am
From: Jackzwick

In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
>
> > Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
>
>
> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?

Your childish jealousy is showing.

== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:45 am
From: News

Jackzwick wrote:
> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>> Jackzwick wrote:
>>
>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
>>
>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
>
>
> Your childish jealousy is showing.

More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.

== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 12:53 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
> > In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >
> >> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>
> >>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
> >>
> >> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
> >
> >
> > Your childish jealousy is showing.
>
>
> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.

Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
me a fanboi? SO be it.

You're still immatrure, however.

== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 12:54 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <KSk7m.449$8B7.195@newsfe20.iad>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:

> At 15 Jul 2009 06:28:12 -0500 Jackzwick wrote:
> > ATT dsl is no longer providing USENET service as of today,
>
>
> You do realize there are a myriad of other usenet providers you can use,
> right?
>

>
> Um, er, sorry about that AT&T DSL thing...
>
> It's been great- we're really going to miss you

How will you apologize for Sprint when they go out of business, and
Verizon buys some pieces?

== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 1:47 pm
From: News

Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 3:52 pm
From: George Kerby

On 7/15/09 3:47 PM, in article
p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Group.Name>
wrote:

== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 5:17 pm
From: Steve Sobol

In article <jackzwick-8919ED.14542515072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>,
jackzwick@yahoo.com says...

>
> >
> > Um, er, sorry about that AT&T DSL thing...
> >
> > It's been great- we're really going to miss you
>
>
> How will you apologize for Sprint when they go out of business, and
> Verizon buys some pieces?

...and the idiot who swore he'd never post to the Sprint PCS newsgroup
posts again.

What does Sprint wireless have to do with AT&T DSL or AT&T Usenet
services? That's right, Bunky... nothing. I don't even know why this
thread is here, there are better newsgroups to post it to.

Besides, Todd isn't a Sprint apologist. I don't think he's ever used
Sprint... and only rarely have I heard him make any comments at all
about Sprint. So I don't know why you even bothered asking the question.

Seriously. Does someone pay you to snipe at people when they badmouth
AT&T? AT&T/SBC screwed me royally several years ago, or tried to (they
failed when I called the Ohio Public Utilities Commission and filed
complaints... after they insisted on trying to collect on $200 in
invoices for services that hadn't worked in two months.

As a result, I won't use AT&T for anything. Not wireless, not anything
else. Their wireless service may be stellar here in the Victor Valley,
but I will never find out.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol@JustThe.net

== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 5:40 pm
From: News

Only what I see posted here.

== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 2:03 pm
From: Todd Allcock

At 15 Jul 2009 14:54:25 -0500 Jackzwick wrote:

> > > ATT dsl is no longer providing USENET service as of today,
> >
> >
> > You do realize there are a myriad of other usenet providers you can
use,
> > right?
> >
>
> >
> > Um, er, sorry about that AT&T DSL thing...
> >
> > It's been great- we're really going to miss you
>
>
> How will you apologize for Sprint when they go out of business, and
> Verizon buys some pieces?

For the record, I've never used Sprint, so I have neither a "revenge" nor
fanboi motive. As a disclaimer, I do own a whopping 200 shares of their
stock I bought at $3.50 for laughs. It's like Roulette. If the "wheel
of recovery" lands on Sprint, I win, if they go under, I'm out a few C-
notes. No big whoop.

You, and everyone else should have an interest in them staying afloat,
however, since the fewer strong competitors, can mean less choices and
higher prices.

== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:43 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <MPG.24c811809a8fbc9a9896e5@news.justthe.net>,
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <jackzwick-8919ED.14542515072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>,
> jackzwick@yahoo.com says...
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Um, er, sorry about that AT&T DSL thing...
> > >
> > > It's been great- we're really going to miss you
> >
> >
> > How will you apologize for Sprint when they go out of business, and
> > Verizon buys some pieces?
>
> ...and the idiot who swore he'd never post to the Sprint PCS newsgroup
> posts again.
>
> What does Sprint wireless have to do with AT&T DSL or AT&T Usenet
> services? That's right, Bunky... nothing. I don't even know why this
> thread is here, there are better newsgroups to post it to.
>
> Besides, Todd isn't a Sprint apologist. I don't think he's ever used
> Sprint... and only rarely have I heard him make any comments at all
> about Sprint. So I don't know why you even bothered asking the question.
>
> Seriously. Does someone pay you to snipe at people when they badmouth
> AT&T? AT&T/SBC screwed me royally several years ago, or tried to (they
> failed when I called the Ohio Public Utilities Commission and filed
> complaints... after they insisted on trying to collect on $200 in
> invoices for services that hadn't worked in two months.
>
> As a result, I won't use AT&T for anything. Not wireless, not anything
> else. Their wireless service may be stellar here in the Victor Valley,
> but I will never find out.

Victor Valley? Didnt you claim to love Ohio so much?

== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:44 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

> Jackzwick wrote:
> > In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> >
> >> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
> >>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
> >>>
> >>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
> >>
> >> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
> >
> > Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
> > me a fanboi? SO be it.
> >
> > You're still immatrure, however.
>
>
> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO

Dont need a field replaceable battery now. I got a Mophie.

Why would I want to give a Moisture sensitive sticker a chance to see
the light of day?

== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:47 pm
From: Jackzwick

In article <DradnebHosGS6sPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:

> George Kerby wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 7/15/09 3:47 PM, in article
> > p8udncmENr_I3cPXnZ2dnUVZ_o5i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Group.Name>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>> In article <YrudnfSEJdEAdsDXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>>>> In article <bumdnTmTlM5AIsDXnZ2dnUVZ_jZi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>>>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Jackzwick wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Last weekend I got a Mophie JuicePack Air.
> >>>>>> Awww. Did it come with a sippy straw?
> >>>>> Your childish jealousy is showing.
> >>>> More like your sensitivity to being shown up as a fanboi.
> >>> Buying a very useful attachment, protection device for my iPhone makes
> >>> me a fanboi? SO be it.
> >>>
> >>> You're still immatrure, however.
> >>
> >> Your effusive rationalization and apologia for the iToy's lack of a
> >> field replaceable battery and lack of durability makes me "immatrure"?
> >> Whatever that is... You don't know, "jack". ROFLMAO
> >>
> > And you don't know zara, right?
> >
>
> Only what I see posted here.

I missed this I long ago plonked Koiby and his immature insults.

I wont miss USENET, thanks to clowns like Kirby, Allcl0ck and Sobel, the
noise to signal ratio is way too high.

== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:51 pm
From: Steve Sobol

In article <jackzwick-86A965.21434815072009@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>,
jackzwick@yahoo.com says...

Of course, you've still never offered even a single excuse for your lie.

I don't know about the at&t newsgroup, but you have no credibility
amongst the regulars here, and your dishonesty is a large part of the
reason why.

I don't expect you to ever admit you lied about staying away from this
newsgroup, either.

Of course, I'll also point out that after you switched from Sprint to
at&t... very soon after... you ranted about them too, and it was about
something stupid (retail store signage).

So what is your problem? When you waltz into this newsgroup and level
your smarmy little personal attacks at people, does it make you feel
better about yourself?

Do you even have the guts to admit that you have a problem?

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol@JustThe.net

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 7:57 am
From: dold@03.usenet.us.com

In alt.cellular.cingular News <News@group.name> wrote:
> Not exactly comparable to picture quality on a 60" DLP 1080p screen...

I love the DTV ad that shows that you can watch up to six sports channels
on one multi-screen simultaneously "all in HD".

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 8:01 am
From: News

Try that on your iToy...

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 15 2009 10:59 am
From: ZnU

In article <h3kqot$3od$3@blue.rahul.net>, dold@03.usenet.us.com wrote:

If we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that means 720p, all
you need is a 3840x1440 screen. Heh.

Such things do exist. I doubt DTV has a device that can drive one.

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon 13 Jul 2009 23:56
From: Todd Allcock

At 11 Jul 2009 17:52:30 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:

> > the Forces of the Ungodly
>
> You a Leslie Charteris fan?

Yes, an indulgence of my youth. You're the first person who's ever
recognized the reference when I've slipped it into a Usenet post.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 05:29
From: Michelle Steiner

In article <y_V6m.5801$mc4.351@newsfe07.iad>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:

> > > the Forces of the Ungodly
> >
> > You a Leslie Charteris fan?
>
> Yes, an indulgence of my youth. You're the first person who's ever
> recognized the reference when I've slipped it into a Usenet post.

That's because I've been a fan since my late teens. Well, it's the
reason I recognized it; I don't know why I'm the first, though.

--
Member National Rifle Association
Member American Civil Liberties Union
Member Human Rights Campaign

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 07:00
From: John Doe

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <y_V6m.5801$mc4.351@newsfe07.iad>,
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:

>> > > the Forces of the Ungodly
>> >
>> > You a Leslie Charteris fan?
>>
>> Yes, an indulgence of my youth. You're the first person who's
>> ever recognized the reference when I've slipped it into a
>> Usenet post.
>
> That's because I've been a fan since my late teens. Well, it's
> the reason I recognized it; I don't know why I'm the first,
> though.

Because you are special, Mitch.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 07:01
From: Todd Allcock

At 14 Jul 2009 05:29:47 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:

> > > > the Forces of the Ungodly
> > >
> > > You a Leslie Charteris fan?
> >
> > Yes, an indulgence of my youth. You're the first person who's ever
> > recognized the reference when I've slipped it into a Usenet post.
>
> That's because I've been a fan since my late teens. Well, it's the
> reason I recognized it; I don't know why I'm the first, though.

For the same reason all the books have been out of print for over two
decades, I guess! :(

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 11:29
From: Michelle Steiner

In article <00a3ce03$0$23902$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> > That's because I've been a fan since my late teens. Well, it's the
> > reason I recognized it; I don't know why I'm the first, though.
>
> Because you are special, Mitch.

yeah, I'm special, and you're special needs, Joan.

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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 11:30
From: Michelle Steiner

In article <os07m.4174$lE6.3190@newsfe05.iad>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:

> > That's because I've been a fan since my late teens. Well, it's the
> > reason I recognized it; I don't know why I'm the first, though.
>
> For the same reason all the books have been out of print for over two
> decades, I guess! :(

I'm glad then, that I have a copy of almost all (maybe all) of them.

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 06:39
From: Davoud

Your Name:
> > As usual Larry is spouting unintelligent crap concerning something he
> > knows absolutely nothing about. :-\

Larry:
> I didn't spout a damned thing. I pointed out a webpage I was not
> responsible for....

That's the point. Steve Jobs said in his 2005 commencement address at
Stanford:

"Your time is limited, so don¹t waste it living someone else¹s life.
Don¹t be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other
people¹s thinking."

At issue is an _imaginary_ Apple tablet PC. Sounds like the guy in the
video who is doing your thinking for you wants to compete with John
Dvorak. "The iMac will fail." "The iPod will not sell. "Nobody will buy
an iPhone." Dvorak, at least, gets paid to troll. It has to be the
ultimate in laziness to point to someone else's troll--as you
did--rather than fabricate your own.

So exercise your creativity. Spend some time envisioning this
(non-existent device) and give us your own review of its (non-existent)
features and your own assessment as to why the (non-existent) device
will or will not sell. Skip over the part about it being crash-proof
and malware-proof; Maccies already know that the (non-existent) device
will be that.

Davoud

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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 11:28
From: nospam

In article <140720090939190373%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> So exercise your creativity. Spend some time envisioning this
> (non-existent device) and give us your own review of its (non-existent)
> features and your own assessment as to why the (non-existent) device
> will or will not sell. Skip over the part about it being crash-proof
> and malware-proof; Maccies already know that the (non-existent) device
> will be that.

it would be awfully clever malware if it could infect a device that did
not exist.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 14:21
From: "Your Name"

"Davoud" <star@sky.net> wrote in message
news:140720090939190373%star@sky.net...
>
> At issue is an _imaginary_ Apple tablet PC.
<SNIP>

"Imaginary"?? Maybe, maybe not.

Your basic point is correct that Larry and his idiot cronies spouting
garbage about a device that they (and almost everyone else on the planet)
know nothing about is standard practice for them. They're simply brainless
morons.

BUT,
there are rumours about Apple soon releasing a netbook / tablet which is
basically a larger iPhone. The rumours have been around for quite a while,
but are gaining ground for a release just before or after Christmas with
Asian manufacturers reporting Apple's orders for device with a 9.5" touch
screen.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 15:00
From: Davoud

Davoud:
> > At issue is an _imaginary_ Apple tablet PC.

Your Name:
> "Imaginary"?? Maybe, maybe not.

Until such a product is announced it remains imaginary. Conjecture,
guesswork, estimates, predictions--all involve trying to imagine
something that one has not seen, and that may not exist to be seen.
Thus, for now, an Apple tablet PC is an _imaginary_ device in my
lexicon.

Davoud

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== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 18:16
From: "Your Name"

"Davoud" <star@sky.net> wrote in message
news:140720091800191624%star@sky.net...
> Davoud:
> > > At issue is an _imaginary_ Apple tablet PC.
> >
> > "Imaginary"?? Maybe, maybe not.
>
> Until such a product is announced it remains imaginary. Conjecture,
> guesswork, estimates, predictions--all involve trying to imagine
> something that one has not seen, and that may not exist to be seen.
> Thus, for now, an Apple tablet PC is an _imaginary_ device in my
> lexicon.

Being unannounced doesn't make it "imaginary", simply unreleased. Imaginary
would imply the product doesn't exist at all. The actual product may well
exist within Apple's walls, even if only as a prototype. Apple has had many
unreleased products over the years, as well as many patents for ideas they
never make.

An unannounced Apple product has actually been showing up on website
statistics for a little while (due to testing), but I'm not sure if that was
the "iTablet" or the iPhone 3Gs.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 20:39
From: Davoud

<your.name@isp.com> wrote:

Davoud:
> > Until such a product is announced it remains imaginary. Conjecture,
> > guesswork, estimates, predictions--all involve trying to imagine
> > something that one has not seen, and that may not exist to be seen.
> > Thus, for now, an Apple tablet PC is an _imaginary_ device in my
> > lexicon.

Your Name:
> Being unannounced doesn't make it "imaginary", simply unreleased. Imaginary
> would imply the product doesn't exist at all. The actual product may well
> exist within Apple's walls, even if only as a prototype. Apple has had many
> unreleased products over the years, as well as many patents for ideas they
> never make.

"...may well exist..." The corollary is that it may well not exist. You
don't see that you are filling in with your _imagination_ !?

> An unannounced Apple product has actually been showing up on website
> statistics for a little while (due to testing), but I'm not sure if that was
> the "iTablet" or the iPhone 3Gs.

One might _imagine_ that it's a tablet, however, mightn't one?

Davoud

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 07:19
From: Jon Ribbens

On 2009-07-14, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> I'll play a little longer...SPECIFICALLY what "sorts of things"?
>
> All of these are a NO....many would be very useful!
>
> Basic Imaging Profile (BIP) NO PICTURES to picture frames!
> Basic Printing Profile (BPP) NO PRINTING ALLOWED!
[etc]

I am under the impression that applications can implement whatever
they like. Try searching for 'bluetooth' in iTunes.

I know that you are going to complain that, even if this is correct,
it does not mean that you can, for example, use a bluetooth keyboard
with the iPhone in general. You are right, and this is a perfectly
valid observation. However it is *not* true at all to say "The only
thing Bluetooth on iPhone does in the USA is headphones".

> Fred says, "BTW – Even thought the iPhone supports Hands-Free Profile,
> it appears it does not do a great job with it.

<shrug> My colleague uses his iPhone with his car's hands-free
bluetooth fine. I'd suggest that you can probably find on-line
complaints about pretty much any consumer you product you like,
it hardly proves anything.

> "I cant believe I bought an iphone…its utter crap
> I cant:
> receieve photos/music/anything from other phones
> forward text messages
> export contacts from iphone to sim
> no video recorder
> transfer songs from my music folder on my pc to iphone
> has a crap text predictor
> etc etc
> I should have stuck with my nokia"

It certainly sounds like this person should have done a tiny bit of
research before spending their money, yes. Also they should probably
read the manual and learn how to use their purchase.

> Great information on tethering this puppy is on:
> http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10040-10133
> from Canada where Rogers has partial, limited tethering turned on.

Works fine for me here. This message sent to you courtesy of iPhone
Tethering ;-)

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 14:18
From: NightStalker

In article <Xns9C47D571B8DE2noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...
>
> Users say of iPhone Bluetooth:
>
> Fred says, "BTW =3F Even thought the iPhone supports Hands-Free Profile,
> it appears it does not do a great job with it. I=3Fve been using my iPhone
> with my car=3Fs hands-free capability and the voice quality is so bad I
> can=3Ft use it to make/receive calls. The two other phones I use with my
> car work fine."
>
>

Don't know what problem he's been having, but my iPhone works absolutely
fine with my Nokia CK7W Bluetooth car kit left over in the car from my
Nokia N95 days. The sound is crystal clear, through the speaker under
the dash, the radio-mute works perfectly, and I can use the new Voice
Control without even looking at the phone. I'm very happy with it.

Oh yes - it's the 3GS, but my previous 3G also worked perfectly apart
from not having voice control. The voice control is the main reason I
upgraded from the 3G to the 3GS.

NightStalker

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 19:54
From: Larry

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720092335022303%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

>> Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)
>
> modems. i remember those. pan supercedes dun anyway.
>
>

That's odd. ATT supports DUN. If it had DUN, you guys would already be on
3G with your macbooks.

--
-----
Larry

Noone will be safe until the last lawyer has been strangled by the entrails
of the last cleric.

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TOPIC: iPhone internet apps just return to my home page
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 10:34
From: salgud

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:38:40 -0700, Cloud Burst wrote:

> Lately, my iPhone (original model, I guess) running 3.0 has started not allowing
> me to run any non-Apple apps that hit the internet. For example, Google Earth,
> Amazon, USA today, Pandora, etc. All they do is begin and then within a second
> or two quit and go back to the main page.
>
> Is this a known bug with a fix, or do I have to reload the iPhone from scratch?
>
> Thanks.
>
> CB

Ok, I'm going out on a limb here. Call Apple?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 16:45
From: big john

Cloud Burst wrote:
> Lately, my iPhone (original model, I guess) running 3.0 has started not allowing
> me to run any non-Apple apps that hit the internet. For example, Google Earth,
> Amazon, USA today, Pandora, etc. All they do is begin and then within a second
> or two quit and go back to the main page.
>
> Is this a known bug with a fix, or do I have to reload the iPhone from scratch?
>
> Thanks.
>
> CB
I've been fooling with Google Earth all afternoon. It runs OK but no
street names etc. Unless you are familiar with the area you are looking
at you'r better off to run the Maps, app thats comes on the phone

--
Big John

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 14:26
From: NightStalker

One of the things that amazes me - even though I love my iPhone - is
that the built-in Calendar app doesn't show the week view. It shows
day, month, or list. I'd suggest that most people use diaries/calendars
on a week-by-week basis, so this oversight is all the more senseless.

I really need the week view, which is what I use on my Macbook's iCal.
This gives much more of a sense of time, and where I have free time to
slot in meetings or whatever, than the list view does.

The app should also sync to the native iCal, rather than a third-party
calendar such as Google's Calendar, which I don't use.

Does anyone know of such an app? I've searched but so far
unsuccessfully.

Wonder if Apple would put that into an OS update? It would be
particularly useful in landscape mode, too.

NightStalker

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 21:23
From: Todd Allcock

At 15 Jul 2009 07:26:50 +1000 NightStalker wrote:
>
> One of the things that amazes me - even though I love my iPhone - is
> that the built-in Calendar app doesn't show the week view. It shows
> day, month, or list. I'd suggest that most people use
diaries/calendars
> on a week-by-week basis, so this oversight is all the more senseless.
>
> I really need the week view, which is what I use on my Macbook's iCal.
> This gives much more of a sense of time, and where I have free time to
> slot in meetings or whatever, than the list view does.
>
> The app should also sync to the native iCal, rather than a third-party
> calendar such as Google's Calendar, which I don't use.
>
> Does anyone know of such an app? I've searched but so far
> unsuccessfully.

AFAIK, the SDK doesn't allow much, if any, access to the native calendar,
which is why the PIM enhancement programs like Pocket Informant sync to
Google Calendar instead. (There is a Contacts API, however, so programs
can manipulate the phone book.) I suspect your hunt for third-party apps
that use the native calendar will come up dry...

> Wonder if Apple would put that into an OS update? It would be
> particularly useful in landscape mode, too.

That would be pretty nice...

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TOPIC: Where's Starbucks??
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 16:34
From: denis

I noticed that since i upgraded to iPhone 3.0 when I go to Starbucks
and log onto iTunes, it no longer has a Starbucks icon on the bottom
left, and doesn't tell me what song is playing at the time...

Is it just me??

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 16:51
From: big john

I have tried several times to download and use Quicktime on my 3g phone.
It's says "congratulations you now have Quicktime", but nothing shows
anywhere that I can find and Quicktime attachments that I get in my
email will not open.

Is it working for anyone else, and if so where am I going wrong??
--
Big John

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 21:24
From: gideon

Is there a way to have the iPhone's GPS be switched on, and cellular
communications be switched off, simultaneously?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues 14 Jul 2009 22:02
From: gideon

On Jul 14, 9:24 pm, gideon <gy949...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to have the iPhone's GPS be switched on, and cellular
> communications be switched off, simultaneously?

there should have been a question-mark at enf of title. OOPS!

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed 15 Jul 2009 00:06
From: "Your Name"

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Today's topics:

* ATT phones and bluetooth GPS - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* New LG KG-288 Mobile Phone best and cheep - 1 messages, 1 author
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* NEWS: Apple's App Store Passes 1.5 Billion Downloads - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: ATT phones and bluetooth GPS
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/t/c0202630659e9499?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 13 2009 10:12 pm
From: isw

I just got a Bluetooth GPS unit -- a BT-359 -- and it works just fine
with my Mac. I can't say the same, unfortunately, about my AT&T
Sony-Ericsson W580i.

The phone can pair with the GPS, and it shows up in the "My Devices"
listing, but no matter what I do, I can't get any of several Java
mapping apps to actually hook up to it. It never shows up in "Connected
Devices".

I've gotten some hints that either out of stupidity or malice, some (or
all???) AT&T phones have a broken driver of some sort that prevents the
hook-up.

If anybody has a working Bluetooth GPS setup, I'd really appreciate a
blow-by-blow description of what you did to get it working, and which
Java applet you're using.

I read one place that an "unlocked" phone would work; is that true?

Or alternately, if anyone can confirm that AT&T phones are broken,
that'd be good to know too.

Thanks

Isaac

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 7:09 am
From: John Navas

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:12:57 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote in
<isw-FF3FB9.22125713072009@[216.168.3.50]>:

>I just got a Bluetooth GPS unit -- a BT-359 -- and it works just fine
>with my Mac. I can't say the same, unfortunately, about my AT&T
>Sony-Ericsson W580i.
>
>The phone can pair with the GPS, and it shows up in the "My Devices"
>listing, but no matter what I do, I can't get any of several Java
>mapping apps to actually hook up to it. It never shows up in "Connected
>Devices".
>
>I've gotten some hints that either out of stupidity or malice, some (or
>all???) AT&T phones have a broken driver of some sort that prevents the
>hook-up.
>
>If anybody has a working Bluetooth GPS setup, I'd really appreciate a
>blow-by-blow description of what you did to get it working, and which
>Java applet you're using.
>
>I read one place that an "unlocked" phone would work; is that true?
>
>Or alternately, if anyone can confirm that AT&T phones are broken,
>that'd be good to know too.

Perhaps this will help:
"Connecting to a GPS receiver using Bluetooth (JSR 82)"
<http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/techsupport/tipstrickscode/java/p_java_gps_receiver_bluetooth.jsp>

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 11:52 am
From: isw

In article <ta4p551aerbbejebku2phl3d4l9b3r46s9@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:12:57 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote in
> <isw-FF3FB9.22125713072009@[216.168.3.50]>:
>
> >I just got a Bluetooth GPS unit -- a BT-359 -- and it works just fine
> >with my Mac. I can't say the same, unfortunately, about my AT&T
> >Sony-Ericsson W580i.
> >
> >The phone can pair with the GPS, and it shows up in the "My Devices"
> >listing, but no matter what I do, I can't get any of several Java
> >mapping apps to actually hook up to it. It never shows up in "Connected
> >Devices".
> >
> >I've gotten some hints that either out of stupidity or malice, some (or
> >all???) AT&T phones have a broken driver of some sort that prevents the
> >hook-up.
> >
> >If anybody has a working Bluetooth GPS setup, I'd really appreciate a
> >blow-by-blow description of what you did to get it working, and which
> >Java applet you're using.
> >
> >I read one place that an "unlocked" phone would work; is that true?
> >
> >Or alternately, if anyone can confirm that AT&T phones are broken,
> >that'd be good to know too.
>
> Perhaps this will help:
> "Connecting to a GPS receiver using Bluetooth (JSR 82)"
> <http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/techsupport/tipstrickscode/java
> /p_java_gps_receiver_bluetooth.jsp>

Yes. Thanks.

Isaac

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TOPIC: New LG KG-288 Mobile Phone best and cheep
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 12:56 am
From: Rakesh Ahuja

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TOPIC: BlackBerry Bold 9000 Price in India
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 3:25 am
From: Anushka Sharma

The BlackBerry Bold is a beautiful phone. The new BlackBerry Bold 9000
is the successor to devices like the BlackBerry Curve and the 8800. It
has an excellent design. RIM's BlackBerry Bold 9000 is a quad-band GSM/
EDGE, tri-band UMTS candybar handset with a smooth, fretted QWERTY
thumb board. BlackBerry Bold is a 3G smartphone with quad-band GSM and
HSDPA support. The Bold is powered by an Intel PXA270 624MHz
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SureType QWERTY keypad. The 2.0-megapixel camera includes some
advanced features, including a flash and 5X digital zoom. Bold comes
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classy, sophisticated look and makes the handset comfortable to hold.
The Bold 9000 is fairly large by BlackBerry standards. At 115mm x 67mm
x 15mm (4.5" x 2.6" x .6") in size and 139.1g (4.9oz) heavy, it is 1mm
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TOPIC: NEWS: Apple's App Store Passes 1.5 Billion Downloads
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 1:02 pm
From: John Navas

<http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/ebusiness/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218500402>

Apple's App Store has eclipsed its rivals in terms of volume; its
users have downloaded more than 1.5 billion applications in about a
year.

The over-the-air program store has been a hit with consumers, and
this has made the platform attractive to mobile developers. Apple
said the store now has more than 65,000 apps, and more than 10,000
content creators are in its iPhone Developer Program. The store is
filled with programs that range from fake beer pouring apps to
enterprise-grade programs from Oracle and Salesforce.

With more than 1,000 new hooks into the hardware, the latest firmware
potentially opens the door for a new wave of, innovative apps.
Additionally, the 3.0 software creates new business models for
developers because it enables in-app purchasing, and app-specific
hardware accessories.

[MORE]

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 3:51 pm
From: George Kerby

On 7/14/09 3:02 PM, in article 8uop559l3b7nc0ok7d6ut5dmpr7msr9lof@4ax.com,
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 10:26 pm
From: isw

I think I now understand (*despite* "help" from AT&T), that the problem
is that AT&T does not allow me to set Java privileges to my liking, even
though it's *my* phone, not theirs.

I also think I understand that if I "debrand" the phone (restore it to a
generic SE W580i), AT&T's Java stupidity will no longer be a problem.

Does anyone know for sure that Java permissions can be user-set on an
unbranded, generic phone, even with "unauthorized" Java apps? I'd like
to know before I go to the trouble of debranding it.

Thanks

Isaac

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Today's topics:

* LOL: DC police chief denounces 'cowardly' iPhone users monitoring police ...
MacDailyNews - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/ef82807df94493b3?hl=en
* New LG KG-288 Mobile Phone best and cheep - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/6f816675c5895597?hl=en
* BlackBerry Bold 9000 Price in India - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/30b5b35248b81b00?hl=en
* NEWS: Apple's App Store Passes 1.5 Billion Downloads - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.cingular/t/2fe876f0ad357529?hl=en

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TOPIC: LOL: DC police chief denounces 'cowardly' iPhone users monitoring
police ...MacDailyNews
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 13 2009 8:55 pm
From: John Blutarsky

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:4a5bff71$0$48225$815e3792
@news.qwest.net:

> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.foxytag.com/en/presentation.html
>
> that seems like the waffle house version...
>
> trapster is more complete...
>
> http://www.trapster.com/iphone.php
>

Neither is necessary if you practiced just a little societal courtesy and
obeyed traffic laws.

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TOPIC: New LG KG-288 Mobile Phone best and cheep
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 12:56 am
From: Rakesh Ahuja

http://www.themobilestore.in/mobilestore/best-buy/store-price_Buy-425_shop-3_online-5_latest-1_/Mobile_Phones/LG/LG_KG-288.html

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TOPIC: BlackBerry Bold 9000 Price in India
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 3:24 am
From: Anushka Sharma

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 1:02 pm
From: John Navas

<http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/ebusiness/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218500402>

Apple's App Store has eclipsed its rivals in terms of volume; its
users have downloaded more than 1.5 billion applications in about a
year.

[MORE]

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 14 2009 3:51 pm
From: George Kerby

On 7/14/09 3:02 PM, in article 8uop559l3b7nc0ok7d6ut5dmpr7msr9lof@4ax.com,
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

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